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to talk about whether the fiscal cliff has had any impant on this business, and of course we'll talk about that relationship with sears. back to you. >> thank you very much. >>> is all that spending translating into green for investors? let's collection in with kayla tausche with a "market flash." >> interestingly enough, the retail sector is falling today in the red for most of the big retailers that had those discounts. also was not the big winner even on friday techwise. so the wig question is how much will these discounts actually eat into the potential margins from those blowout sales. if you look, courtney said that department stores were the biggest destination but macy's and nordstrom are two of the biggest laggards on the s&p. costco which had heavily discounted things like the nexus 7, also down today. >>> to congress now which is returning to deal with the biggest economic issue of the day -- that fiscal cliff. john harwood on whether lawmakers are getting any closer to a deal. >>> and coming up on closing bell, pet smart's ceo robert moran will join us live to discuss how his c
.s. as a source of uncertainty for the market as well. we're just 35 days away from the fiscal cliff. january 1st more than 600 billion dollars in both cuts and tax hikes, spending cuts kicking in and it will affect the state you live in in some way shape or form. today we're kicking off governors on the edge week on countdown to the closing bell. we are finding out how pennsylvania is affected by the budget mess. governor corbett is talking about the impact on state finances but perhaps more importantly why he is not waiting around and he and his team are trying to work on make sure they don't fall into the abyss with the rest of the country. >>> now hewlett-packard is now up 2 1/4%. we just heard through reuters we're confirming it here on fox business that a class-action lawsuit has been filed against hewlett-packard, a law firm -- we're looking at this issue with autonomy, it's a company they had to write down the acquisition by billions and billions of dollars. so clearly this is the breaking news on hewlett-packard right now. not really moving that much. still up about 28 cents. apple as yo
to u.s. leaders negotiating over the so- called fiscal cliff about the serious financial impact looming on the horizon. that's where we begin this morning. how confident are you about the state of the u.s. economy? what steps are you taking to prepare for the potential impact if the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff? give us a call this morning. you can also catch up with us on all your favorite social media sites, twitter or facebook. or e-mail us. thismorning to you on wednesday, november 21. we are talking about federal reserve chairman ben bernanke's comments yesterday about the fiscal cliff, and getting your thoughts on bthe u.s. economy. and this headline -- also, in the financial times -- to tell little bit more about ben bernanke's , and sister day we turn to david clarke of "politico," their financial services editor. thanks for joining us. guest: thanks for having me. host: what is making the most waves from his speech? guest: in the past he has warned that congress and the president's path to take care of the fiscal cliff. yesterday he said it is not simply doing it but how they
the debt problems in europe and the fiscal cliff crisis here in the u.s. stocks fell late today after senate majority leader harry reid said lawmakers are making little progress in resolving the stand-off over tax increases and spending cuts. the dow fell 89 points, the nasdaq lost nine, the s&p 500 down seven. >> tom: as susie mentioned, talks to resolve the fiscal cliff are moving slowly. one reason is that there is deep disagreement over whether entitlement programs like social security and medicare should be on the table right now or not, and the disagreement is sharpest over social security. darren gersh takes a look at why. >> reporter: the number-two man in the senate democratic leadership argues any fix for social security's finances should come after the immediate challenge is out of the way. >> i think we should take social security off the table for the current fiscal cliff and deficit discussion, but be very honest about what we're going to achieve in the near term. >> reporter: republicans pushed back, arguing social security is part of the deficit problem because it is n
storm, of the dangers of going over the so-called fiscal cliff, the one washington created. it seems with the noise of the campaign behind us, washington is listening, which means that after several months of harping on the dangers that you face, i am ready to make a big switch to telling you about the opportunities that lie ahead. i'm ali velshi and this is "your money." look, the clet of tthreat of th cliff remains real. i will not drop this subject until it's settled. but there is life after washington-induced catastrophe, and frankly, it looks like a pretty good life. if all goes according to plan, 2013 could be a big turnaround year for the u.s. the start of a recovery that feels real. most of it will have very little to do with washington policy, though your state and federal government will have to step in to make it happen. let me explain. first, there is an energy boom under way in the united states right now. fueled by the joint forces of hydraulic fracturing or fracking of natural gas out of shale and buy mo by more drilling for oil. natural gas is increasingly cheap and a
the fiscal cliff. do you buy into that? > > perhaps. right now, the market seems to be shrugging its shoulders at every headline that comes in, because we are hearing so much. but what harry reid said was really a game- changer, about perhaps trying to curb filibusters. that would be a game-changer, and would put a lid on the stock market. > he could have that much power? unbelievable. all right, let's move on to our next question and talk about greece. for now it looks like greece will not go bankrupt. is that helping the stock market? > > i think it is, but i think it was priced into the stock market. i think the stock market realizes that greece's debt is unsustainable, so anything they can do to prolong that pain until the inevitable happens where there's debt forgiveness is a good thing for the stock market. > what is it better to own right now - a powerball ticket, or stocks? > > stocks. absolutely. i would own stocks before a powerball ticket. > good answer. good to have you on the show. that is larry shover of sfg alternatives. > > thank you. president obama hits the road thi
kiss our economy good-bye. because we will all be going over -- >> that fiscal cliff. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal cliff. >> that dreaded fiscal cliff. >> stephen: yes, the dreaded fiscal cliff. an unavoidable money will technology the razor-sharp financial rocks below. it all started back in 2011 during the showdown over raising our debt ceiling when republicans wanted spending cuts and obama wanted to raise taxes. which led to a budget crisis that congress solved by not solving it. (laughter) instead, they handed it over to something called "the supercongress" which couldn't fail because it was super. (laughter) unfortunately it was also congress so it failed. (laughter) and as a result -- (applause) as a result -- (applause) as a result, folks, we are facing another thing called sequestration which at first sounds like rationing the amount you can watch "sea quest." (laughter) but it's even worse than that. (laughter) sequestration is automatic spending cuts that both sides agree would trigger a new recession. it's like congress put a gun to the economy's head and swore it will pull
one full percentage point. road map for the morning starts off with the fiscal cliff. the president meeting with more ceos today bringing his plan straight to the people culminating in an appearance in a factory later this week. >> costco joins the dividend parting initiating a $7 a share payout on top of the regular dividend. >> and a shake-up at groupon. the board may be considering co-founder being released. >> there's powerball fever. 500 million big ones in the pot. how would you spend the money and how does the fiscal cliff factor in? we'll talk strategy with a former lottery winner. >> we begin with the fiscal cliff. this afternoon president obama is scheduled to meet with several business leaders including ceos of home depot, macy's, caterpillar and at&t but futures are falling with signs there are troubles with negotiations on capitol hill. a market credible deal to solve the cliff is key to economic growth. >> that annual growth idea, that prospect is real in my view if we actually did get a market credible $4 trillion plan. the markets would realize those guys can govern.
a forecast for cyber monday sales. we of course continue to watch the fiscal cliff count down. lawmakers have been trying to convince the naub they are willing to compromise. they return to capitol hill today. >> everything should be on the table. >> bring entitlement reform into the conversation. >> a group of corporate executives are calling on congress to rise above partisan politics to try to find some sort of a solution. we have a lot to talk about with gleg brown and we'll start that in just a moment, but first over to andrew. >>> finance ministers are trying to unfreeze the second bailout package for greece, but first they must agree on how to cut massive debt to a more sustainable level. we'll head to london for details on that. and playing down a deal talk, tom joyce saying his country's currently if talks with at least two firms on a possible sale of its largest business unit. but would only pursue a deal if it created value to shareholders and clients. and mexico's anti-corruption body says it has found no irregularities in its probe of permits given to walmart. two audits still un
of this fiscal cliff that if my opinion, at least, is starting to hurt spending. >> it is hard to believe because why like toship but a lot of people go because it is a celebration thing, a lot of them are tag about it is like a party like lining up to see the ball drop on new year's so it is not just deal seeking. >>guest: it is becoming a huge event. you have to credit the retailers and the media for building it up because it is a big part of our economy and a quarter of the sales will be taking place here for the year take place in the next couple of weeks, but the fiscal cliff is out there. the fiscal cliff for the consumer is the worst thing that has happened since paris hilton released her debut music album, and there is not a lot of hope for congress to resolve anything. >> but consumer confidence is at a file year high so it must translate into opening of the wallets? >>guest: that is a fair point but if you look at the most recent consumer sentiment survey, you talk about future expectations, they are lower when than the last few months, and the lower expectations are because of the fisc
away from the fiscal cliff. we have fox team coverage. chief washington correspondent james rosen is at the white house to tell us about the president's return to the campaign trail sort of. but we begin with the chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel and another reason that the talk reconciliation so important. good evening, mike. >> good evening. there are strong suggestions that the nation's debt problem may be worse than $16 trillion and counting and key lawmakers are saying it's time to slash spending. >> i can cut $600 billion more out of the federal government tomorrow. nobody would know a difference except for the people employed by the programs here in washington, d.c. >> when asked by fox what he would be willing to cut, the senate majority leader didn't offer anything new. >> remember, we have already done more than $1 billion worth of cuts. we have done that. so we need to get some credit for that. and the negotiations that take place. >> 42 business organizations sent this letter to top lawmakers urging congress not to increase taxes writing, "we strongly urge
of the main drivers behind recent stock moves is the uncertainty about the fiscal cliff. but buckle up, our next two guests say the action could soon get even more interesting. and later today, thousands are going to gather in manhattan's rockefeller center for the lighting of the christmas tree, making any visit to manhattan from here on out basically impossible at night. the annual spectacle has become a world famous symbol of the holidays. i went last night and it was okay. >> i went two nights ago. >> from now on -- >> i couldn't believe two nights ago, there was no traffic. >> it's over now. over. >> this year's tree came from flanders after surviving the strong winds of hurricane sandy. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investm
this one to sell his plan for dealing with the fiscal cliff, we will hear from the president at the white house this hour. connell: and the powerball lotterr everybody is talking about is creating a frenzy, but we have a reality check today with another big story we have been following. it would run the government for an hour and 15 minutes. dagen: and it would last me for half a year. charlie gasparino on the future of the firm and the leader. connell: we start things off with nicole petallides. stocks nowwevery 15 minutes. dagen: good morning. nicole: good morning. we are certainly embedded that3 story. but i wanted to take a look at the broader market. you see they are improving some. pertaining to the fiscal cliff, it really is a market moving event. you have john boehner talking but he is optimistic a deal can be reached. this comes on the heels of yesterday when you had harry reid expressing caution about the fact things ar were nt going that well. we are seeing the market to the downside, they have improved and you can see it spiked up. alaska mitra said to them. dagen
about good feelings. good feelings over possible deal to avert the fiscal cliff. republicans seem to be breaking ranks with the hardliners. talk about maybe raising revenues if the democrats will be willing to do meaningful entitlement reform. that positive tone, the rising above, helped move up the futures right into the bell. who wanted to be short ahead of a weekend deal? what a difference a day makes. this morning we come in, what are they chattering about? greece. greece. can you believe greece? it's standing in the way of a european deal again. this small country with no grip on its finances has europe hostage all over again. without a deal, every major bourse in europe came down last night. we didn't get a sunday night easing from china. worried that the recent positive data can't be maintained without more interest rate cuts. you know what, we've been conditioned to believe that weaker economic data means more stimulus, which leads to higher stock prices here. what happens if the news isn't so good that china becomes a big importer of our goods again but isn't so bad the c
guess who. you, and of course the rest of us. we're all on the edge of this fiscal cliff. >> we don't think that raising tax rates is something that's good for this economy, that will help grow jobs. and so what we have said is there are ways for the federal government to have more revenue if we grow this economy and engage in tax reforms. >> every economist i respect says if you raise tax rates at this time -- in fact the president said that a couple years ago -- that it harms the economy. we're trying to help the economy. and so unless i can be convinced that raising tax rates will be beneficial, then obviously i think there's reason and grounds for my position. >> the truth is this country does not need to go through this fiscal cliff, which is fundamentally a huge tax increase and very little spending cuts. we're favoring a huge automatic tax increase that needs to be changed. >> bottom line we can't go off the fiscal cliff. democrats have harry reid. we have mitch mcconnell. get them in the room. no one gets all they want. if reagan and o'neill could do it, obama and boehner sh
't want to tip them off. we need to let this go. the fiscal cliff and jobs are far more important. >> and let's talk about the fiscal cliff and jobs. in your time in california you worked on in the state assembly, a state hit hard by a fiscal y crisis. >> i sure did. >> i want to talk to you about something you said in terms of medicare reform and medicaid. obviously republicans are saying, look, in exchange for any type of taxes going up, we want to see some real entitlement reform. you talk about cracking down on waste, fraud and abuse. is there enough revenue from waste, fraud and abuse and m medicare to get the type of serious deficit reform needed to bring down the $16 trillion debt? >> well, you know, i think anytime you're talking about a deficit, there's two ways to bring it down, and i know you know this well. you're either going to raise revenue or have cuts, and i would continue to argue for a balanced approach which means i do think you can find savings in both programs. but what i'm concerned about is what the real agenda is and the real agenda, in my opinion, is to
on the fiscal cliff next year and i see the housing market getting better around better and i think that's a positive. >> rick santelli, it wasn't just stocks rallying today. here in the u.s., europe had its best week of the year this week. the euro is at a three-week high. gold was very strong today. what's the market telling us right now? >> i think the market's telling us that there's a lot of bargain hunting and a lot of optimism towards europe. that made sense. i think that the issues of europe are far from cured. i don't think they can be cured. but i do think there's going to be large time gaps where investors hit the gas because the bureaucrats aren't necessarily hitting the brake. whether it's cyprus seems to be an issue. but it's strong. greece really isn't a huge issue but it really does represent kind of how the thinking goes for larger issues that europe has defaced. i found it fascinating, the dollar index closed down over a penny, even though had a strong gain on the week on the yen. it just goes to show you how that euro is so powerful this week and how in the last couple
are triggered by the fiscal cliff. democrats and republicans appear stuck on entitlement reforms. democrats don't want deep cuts to programs like medicaid, medicare, social security. some republicans say it's the only way to get a deal. >> the reason we're having these negotiations is because washington democrats have spent money without any care for the cost or the future. and refuse to do anything to protect long-term spending programs like medicare, a failure that's among the biggest single drivers of our debt. >> one out of three people in this country are going to rely on medicare and head cade for their health insurance. so we need to find ways to preserve these programs. >> senator durbin says the debate over entitlement programs should be fought after the new year. he's going to join us in a few minutes to talk about it. >>> police on new york's long island investigating a deadly bus crash, a 6-year-old boy was killed last night when the driver of that bus lost control and went barreling into the front bedroom of the boy's home. police say the bus driver swerved to avoid hitting a pedes
over the fiscal cliff. but only party we're talking about right now is the g.o.p., and they are. neil: why are they doing this? i know a close election, but, it is not as if they were just wiped off the face of the earth? what are they doing? >> i think there are a couple things here, dan and i were talking, if they go ahead, and go along with this, then they are setting a tone and putting themselves at risk for midterm elections, they can't afford to lose at this point politically. but i think they know, that if theyment long-term tax solutions, a simplification of the tax code if that i want to talk about entitlement reform they have to concede a bit. i think one thing that could help both sides if we had a well the more transparency in this conversation so it is not just republicans that are strong armed here. neil: you know, dan, you are closer to this than i will be, but i have to say between this concession of republicans to entertain what could be more substantial revenue hikes, so say nothing now of embracing the idea of suzanne rice -- susan rice hearing on the benghazi thing
cliff. the markets were kind of a honeymoon today. where the traders not concerned about the fiscal cliff? what went on? >> the fiscal cliff was so widely expected is becoming a non-event at this point. the market managed to eke out a gain today. the european issue is also something on the traders minds. the emergency meeting monday, we have to resolve issue with grief that will be firs first and fort on their minds into next week. david: they're never going to resolve that issue. it will never, ever happen. i don't think they will resolve it. you bring up a great point because if worst-cas worst caseo we go over the fiscal cliff and all of those tax changes expire, we will see a tripling of the dividend tax. if that happens, so many people invested right now, you said some of them might change from issuing dividends to buying back their stocks, right? >> that will be the tax efficient way people will return money, cash to shareholders. taxes on dividends are likely to go up, so that could be more efficient place. a dividend issue we have talked about before overplayed maybe an over
friday protests are planned and sandra tracking shoppers fearing the fiscal cliff. william, from lax? >>reporter: a bad travel day is a nightmare for thousands as the fastest growing union in the country is holding a protest on the business of the travel day of the year at the third busiest airport in the country. in was designed to turn this road, way you get into lamb, into a parking lot and they have succeeded. what is bad if travelers is good for the union. they are bringing publicity to an issue that local news and the media would otherwise not cover and that is basically a labor dispute with a small company employing 400 workers. they are protesting a vote by a company, by the workers, decertifying the union, throwing them out, so to speak. >> it is frustrating because they are trying to get home to their families. on a holiday. where people want to see their family. that is crazy. no notwithstanding you. that is how i feel. >> they have something to say. the constitution protects our right to protest. doesn't it? let them do it. more power to them. >> so, they are protesting t
republican colleagues. >> a growing group of liberal fiscal cliff jumpers if you will as they're being called, they seem to be willing to risk everything, jump off the cliff if social safety nets face deep cuts while tax rates stay low for the wealthy. do you think that is smart politics or could it backfire against democrats? >> i think what the president has said is the right approach to take which is that we want to do everything we can to avoid the fiscal cliff consistent with what he said during the campaign which is that, number one, we have to focus on jobs and the jobs plan and, number two, we have to ask higher income individuals to start paying a little bit more to reduce the debt because if you don't, simple math tells you you will hit everybody else harder. the president's priority has been to protect the middle class and do that by asking higher income earners to pay a little bit more. so i think the president has been clear. he has set forward a plan to prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff and the choice republicans have is are they going to continue to insist on saying t
. >> in the scramble to avoid the fiscal cliff, both the president's plan to raise taxes on the wealthy and the republican willingness for revenues could end up hurting charities and rely on the kindness of people with money. >> high income people tend to give very generous gifts. they may give a million dollar contribution to a capital campaign of a local hospital or a local art museum and a small number of donors at the high end that account for really big chunk of the charitable giving in this country and those are the folks that we'd be most impacted by this tax policy change. >> in fact, united way gives 15% of total donations, 500 million dollars a year, from those who give $10,000 or more. so, charities worry that any kind of tax increase on the wealthy could cut into their donations and that money from the wealthy would go to the government in taxes, instead of the charities as donations. >> yes, they aren't taxed on that income, then they're able to give all of that income to charities and nonprofits, back to their communities. >> after all, people have to pay their mortgages a
for the middle class. tonight chris van hollen and jan schakowsky on the latest on the fiscal cliff. >>> the meeting with the president looks good for progressives. we'll get the scoop from james hoffa. >>> plus, breaking news. republicans running the benghazi witch hunt remain disturbed and troubles. >> i'm more disturbed and significantly troubled. >> i'm more troubled. >> joan walsh on today's big meeting with susan rice. >>> and yesterday ricks rolled fox news. >> i think that the emphasis on benghazi has been extremely political because fox was operating as a wing of the republican party. >> today fox news strikes back. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the white house is keeping republicans in a box. president obama is hitting the road to push the extension of tax cuts for income, for folks under $250,000 a year. the president will kick off his tour in southeastern pennsylvania on friday. today he met with small business owners at the white house and tomorrow he plans to meet with a group of middle-class families. republicans will be countering
>>> tonight, battleground america. the looming fiscal cliff and the fight to save the economy. in his first interview since the big romney loss, i will ask reince priebus if his party is out of touch with the country. plus his plans to fix the gop. >>> plus president obama's tax push. he wants the rich to pay up but is it fair? >>> and one of the most influential spiritual leaders in the world, america's pastor, rick warren. he was there at barack obama's first inauguration. will he be there again? we're talking politics, same sex marriage and the "two and a half men" star whose christian conversion has him attacking his own show. this is "piers morgan tonight." >>> good evening. our big story tonight, countdown to financial doomsday, the fiscal cliff and the clock is ticking. 35 days left before this massive sweeping tax hike. america's now at the mercy of washington, hoping that both sides can end the fighting and make a deal. anti-tax champion grover norquist last night told me he's keeping republicans to the no tax increase pledge they made decades ago. but should his part
. >>> lawmakers return to washington today with just 35 days until the "fiscal cliff" happens. and believe it or not, airlines are trying to keep queue on time. we'll explain now. >>> first business starts now. >>> you are watching first business. >>> good morning, it is monday, november 26, i am bill, so, did you survive black friday and welcome to super mondays. the holiday shopping season is now if full swing. we are going to spend more the last few weeks of the year than last year. remember tomorrow is giving tuesday. consider what you might do. >>> 35 days now for congress to solve that little impasse . this week they are going to try to make a deal. and is europe just buying greece? today finance minterred meet again to talk about releasing more billions your rows. >>> and now tim, he is the managing partner, so, tim, the eu, they are met meting again today and it still looks like they need money to go to greece. how much are traders going be paying attention to this? >> well, i think it is going p quite a bit of attention because it is a critical issues. and after three years of res
people here in washington are calling the fiscal cliff. today, we have new proof that people across the country not only are aware of what's going on, they're very, very worried. our new poll shows 68% say the country will face either a crisis or major problems if the cuts in taxes aren't avoided. and a whopping 77% say their personal financial situation will be affected by a failure to solve the fiscal cliff problem. despite this nationwide sense of urgency, there's only a little talk of compromise right now as lawmakers return to washington. our congressional correspondent, kate bolduan, has been working her sources on capitol hill and what's going on. stakes are enormous right now. what's going on? >> they were away for a week. staff was supposed to be working. but lawmakers are arriving back in town with no real whisper of an imminent breakthrough at the moment to avoid this looming series of tax increases and spending cuts that could very well damage the economy. but the air of compromise among some notable republicans is definitely grabbing attention. the republicans' comments
that could exist between europe and the u.s.? it seems like the u.s. has to deal with the fiscal cliff and there is not much room for mutual influence. if you don't have your house in order, you cannot speak to our problems. this does not covered in our media very much. >> thank you. let's go to illinois. we have the votes from the judges. >> can you guys hear me? what can parliament do to encourage [indiscernible] >> thank you. we will go right to the answers. >> you the unemployment, i spent a long time in entering what could we do to regain trust and growth. i made a proposal, and i repeat it. the european union, together with the states in which the youth unemployment is so crop -- so great, we should support those enterprises who employ young people with direct support financially for the enterprise, or with privilege and taxes. those are the two possibilities, but we should do it. the fight against unemployment, in my eyes, is the highest priority for the european union, or must be the highest priority for the european union. the international labor organization spoke about the l
-- can we avoid the fiscal cliff. can we get ourselves back on the right track, if you will, without raising taxes -- without getting rid of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy? >> i think -- it doesn't add up. you get about $750 billion from loopholes. that doesn't get you near -- >> bill: bill clinton said in charlotte, it is arithmetic. >> it's math. >> bill: right. you mentioned -- i want to come back -- the other thing the republicans have put on the table, of course, is entitlement. they will only consider new revenue if democrats come forth with entitlement reform. by entitlement reform, let's be honest. they mean getting rid of medicare, getting rid of medicaid. >> structural reforms. >> bill: and privatizing social security. >> it was good to hear yesterday jay carney the white house press secretary, i don't know if you were there. taking social security off the table. it's not a problem. it hasn't contributed to the deficit. that's off the table. they're open to medicare. they've been open to changing pr
have haven't, this is going to make you want to puke. 39 days away from a fiscal cliff it turns my stomach because i have been trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. i have a lot to do. i took it upon myself to try to save the country and broker a deal, to try to get them hopping on the trillions of dollars worth of automatic spending cuts and bush tax rates that expire the same second, at stroke of midnight january 1, 2013. with the biggest names in the business community, in the political community, we tried, again and again, to come close to the crisis that could have been avoided at 39 days out remains a chasm. hear their woes, their worries, about being on the brink. fiscal cliff? or fiscal free for all? we are staring at this abyss. no one is even touching it. >> what is amazing to me this is the most predictable financial crisis ever in the history of this country. i suspect we are thought going to anticipate a recession, you will see a recession. >> we should be very careful not to go over the cliff because we will have a negative affect on this economy and on employment. >>neil
of a little more of a slope. i do think that there is -- i think that the worst part of the fiscal cliff are going to be avoided, and beyond that i think that both sides if they don't come together then we have a lot more revenue, and then we could do something like tax reform on top of that higher revenue, which would still bring in some revenue, yet at the same time satisfy a lot of republican demands for possibly lower rates. again, we can cross that bridge when we get to it. right now i think we won't -- if there is going to be a deal in this lame duck session, we are not going to know until the very end. host: thank you, gentlemen. appreciate your helping us out with this conversation about this so-called fiscal cliff. and the conversation continues in washington and outside as both parties take their arguments to the public. cnn reporting that the white house wants americans to make their point on twitter. we will be following all of this with our cameras, as well as on our website, c-span.org/fiscalcliff if you want to follow along. that does it today for -- it for today's "washin
in washington. the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the million dollar question is all concerns around senato
it could be the beginning of simultaneous tax hikes and spending cuts. >> talking about t fiscal cliff and everyone is talking about it including the u.s. federal reserve chairman ben bernanke. he warned the imminent fiscal cliff poses a stashlg threat to the nation's economy and does say cooperation to resolve budget worries could boost u.s. growth. >> the realization of all of the automatic tax increases and spending cuts that make up the fiscal cliff ab isn't offsetting changes would pose a substantial threat to the recovery. >> the central bank chief urged the government and congressional leaders to take prompt action. president obama is negotiating for a resolution with republicans but bernanke says delays in reaching an agreement would raise uncertainty over the u.s. economic outlook. he added avoiding a fiscal cliff is essential for the american economy. bernanke says a plan for resolving the nation's longer term budgetary issues without harming recovery could make 2013 a very good year for americans. japan's trade balance for october sank into the red for a fourth straight mont
calling the fiscal cliff. and yet the consumers we have been talking about are not acting very worried. trying to capitalize on the strong holiday shopping season, the president warned that the economy will spiral downward if it is not addressed. >> i think it is a reason that retailers are so concerned. that congress has not yet extended the middle class tax cuts. >> reporter: the report also estimates that consumer spending could drop by $200 billion by 2013. 31st, there will be a massive fiscal cliff, of large spending cuts and tax increases. >> reporter: the federal reserve chairman coined that term last spring, restoration of 2% in payroll taxes, expiration of unemployment benefits and $110 billion in automatic cuts, to programs like defense. the political sticking points? tax rates, most democrats want tax rates for those making $250,000 a year to go up. republicans want it to stay the same, but would limit the deductions and close loopholes. there is a disagreement on who should be considered wealthy warren buffet argues that the timeline for the rich should be raised from $250
and budget cuts from the so-called fiscal cliff. the president met with small business owners on tuesday to talk about the effect on their companies from taxes and other charges. right now congress is stalled over finding a solution as democrats demand higher taxes for high wage earners while republicans want cuts to entitlement programs. and last night on hardball, former republican senator alan simpson gave his thoughts on the fiscal cliff and failure of lawmakers to reach an agreement. p. >> they love their party more than they love their country. how it we get to that point, don't ask me, but the whole business of reform and money in the campaign and beat up the guy, and it's not a case of who wins. it's you want to be sure somebody loses. and i say to people whether it's grover norquist or whatever, lord's sake, if you can't step up to the plate, what can happen to you? they can't murder you, they can't burn your house. the only thing they can do is defeat for you re-election by throwing some coo-coo from the left or right on you and if that means more than your country when it's ex
and into year end. >> well, you have the fiscal cliff. you have the political class. they have to work out some of these budget issues, but sort of beyond the near term, maria, i think they're two underpinnings that are supporting the market. they were in place preelection. hopefully you sort of get through some of these political negotiations. you get back to some of the better underlying fundamental news and some of this volatility starts to dissipate and we start to turn higher. >> rick, you agree with that in terms of the catalyst for this market? you think we get a deal done by year end? >> i don't. i don't. i don't agree with much of what's out there. i think we can get the framework for a grand bargain before the end of the year, but i think that's 50/50. and many analysts, economists, and politicos don't believe there's grand bargains in the cards at all. i do. i think there's so many issues with congress out that i think are going to come to the table to make both sides have a pretty good handle over the other. i think debt ceiling is a big deal. i think that mr. boehner has talked abo
's how congress rolls. and now with just 36 days remaining to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, senators are coming back to work. the house returns tomorrow. the white house is working both sides of the beltway to maintain bush-era tax rates for the poor and middle class, while letting those lower rates expire for higher earners. this morning, the white house put out numbers claiming if we fall off the cliff, consumers will be spending less money next year. how much less, exactly? $200 billion in fiscal 2013 alone. that would be a huge, huge hit on retailers. now, tax hikes are the biggest part, but not the only part of the fiscal cliff. seeing it as a fiscal cliff, the new year will also bring more than $100 billion in spending cuts, if -- if congress and the president can't agree on some other course. all of this brings me to my friend, cnn's christine romans with details on the toll on consumer spending. we threw out the number, $200 billion. what does that mean? >> it comes straight from the white house, trying to ride the coat tails of black friday weekend when throwing around how m
into the debt market, and steven hammers says the fiscal cliff is y2k all over again. i want to start with stephen, because he's been looking at green mountain for a long time, but is it too hot to handle? even though it is popping after hours as a result of these earnings, it is a very hot stock to hold, is it not? >> the stocks do have consistent earnings, otherwise we wouldn't have it. but because we weight securities based on the risk, we call rise the risk. green mountain coffee has the lowest exposure to our large cap fund which is only a .03% exposure. so we don't have much of green mountain coffee. but it is consistent earnings. liz: okay. you know, the trade action of the day, larry, it looked pretty ugly today, but there were some pretty good winners. nonetheless, i like how you put this. you said there are nuisance headlines coming through, and a couple came in the form of, in essence, i guess coming out of d.c. that the talks have stalled as it pertains to the fiscal cliff. does that just cause the markets to dive? >> yeah, i think so. i mean, i'm actually -- i feel like i
of the so called "fiscal cliff" negotiations. today we are focusing on the bush-era income taxes. we're having a roundtable discussion in our last hour from a democratic and republican perspective on that. so stay with us. madeleine in thousand oaks, california, republican. caller: i am the wye fire the teacher. i feel i am an independent republican. -- i am the wife of a teacher. in california we feel we have too many administrators. the teachers need time to get further education and that should be demanded. there are teachers who should not be there. but there are parents who are very aggressive who come to school and have come on the playground and have hit the teachers. the teachers have insurance if something happens. one student came to school with her mother is underpants. it's not only the military that get tempted, but teachers get tempted also. host: we have a line set aside for educators this morning. we want to hear from them as well as we continue this discussion on how you would fix your school system. yesterday in washington recovered an event with florida governor je
off the fiscal cliff than accept a deal that does not raise the tax rates. as much as you hear this talk it all comes to looking good through the republican house. we do not know yet. we know the staff's been working back and forthe. there's been all sorts of things floating around. to correlate for what the tax cuts would be for the rest of the decade. it's complicated stuff. both teams growing at it. i know they spoke over the thanksgiving holiday, but we are not close to a gentlemen's agreement like you're perhaps hearing from the a few united states senators, tamron. >> thank you very much. let me bring in news nation's senior political reporter lois romano and cnn contributor and strategist keith boykin. we touched on comments on morning joe. he released a little more detail. it says in part republicans aren't against tax rate hikes because of one man or a pledge. we're against hiking rates because they're bad for the economy and hurt jobs. our first team points out it seems like the parties are ready to agree to a large point for taxes on the wealthy. the down side is the
, the fiscal cliff negotiations will heat up. now the speaker of the house has thrown a new problem into the talks, can a deal actually be reached? >>> shoppers looking for their own kind of grand bargain today. we're going to look at the black friday crush at shopping malls and super stores all over this country. but we start this hour with breaking news in egypt. you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting that his new powers are for the good ofu issued a statement moments ago saying in part, quote, we call for calm and encourage all parties to work together and call for all egyptians to resolve their differences over these important issues peacefully and through democratic dialogue. ji
from the desk with the couch. >> shepard: this is the fox report. avoiding the fiscal cliff. now the president and house republicans plan to hit the trail in search for support for their competing plans. plus, the u.s. ambassador, susan rice, meets with some of her toughest critics. and apparently they don't like what she has to say. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some we didn't get. more disturbed now than i was before. >> shepard: republican senators criticizing ambassador rice for her initial comments on the libya consulate attack. >> ambassador rice has no responsibility for collecting, analyzing and providing intelligence. >> shepard: tonight the ambassador responds. >>> plus, the people of egypt trying to avoid trading one dictator for another. fighting back against a president who gave himself new powers. tonight a potential crisis point as the leader tries to put himself above the law. and how will the u.s. handle this? >>> plus, the chances of winning are ridiculously low. but millions of us are still lining up for a shot at a rec
with middle class average folks in america, part of the campaign ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff which is 33 days away. >> typical middle class family of four would see the income taxes go up by $2,200, out of people's pockets. that means less money if bying groceries, less money if filling prescriptions, less money if bying diapers. it means a tougher choice teen paying the rent and paying tuition and middle class families cannot afford that right new. >>neil: my next guest had a thing to say about the diapers comment but it is not credible, middle class business owners scott and when -- wendy. you would both be affected. >>guest: it is disturbs. i built this business starting in the garage. we do window and screen doors and i have 14 employees, seven trucks, we are trying to help the public and we are trying to look at expanding our business and i could see adding another four employees to the roles but we are right on the cusp of that that zone of taxation and it makes you wonder, i know i will meet with the tax guy and he will say you need to think twice. don't expand. this is not
to the fiscal cliff, another group of folks expected to meet -- expecting to get hit hard. i'm talking about college savers. my next guest says many families will be worse off next year compared to this year. here to explain, founder and publisher of stayed. welcome back to the show. always great to have you. let's start with this idea. what is the fiscal cliff? what is it going to do if we take the budget cuts to college students aids? >> well, in two ways. the sequestration will cut all student aid but the pell grant by 8 percent across the board. the pell grant sheltered in 2013. come 2014 and also will be cut automatically by 8%. american opporunity tax credit expires the end of 2012 as well. gerri: it sounds like -- and here is your number right here. the fiscal cliff hits it could result in a percent cut in federal student aid. clearly people are going to seek higher costs for college. how can a company that if they have to do it on their own diamond cannot borrow money? >> they need to say before college. every dollar you save is a dollar less you have to borrow. search for scholarshi
in the fiscal cliff. perhaps the majority of the people who were polled are oblivious to the dangers of the physical cliff. maybe they don't know what it means. maybe they don't know about the tax increases that await us. do they know about the layoffs and the ta awtake away of the stimulus. are they foolish and brave? smug, we won't go back into a recession? perhap s obtuse. first off, we shouldn't be putting that much faith in the consumer value customers to begin with. it was right at the beginning of the breakdown of society as we know it. sure, they were confident. but they were wrong. second, many people polled were paying income taxes. we know that 47% of the people in the country were paying the rates. but a lot of people in the country, cohorts are small and it is a small part of the survey. given how difficult the tax code is to comprehend. i have been trying to figure out what it could be. that makes me cautious. third, it is possible we are overstating the whole fiscal cliff issue. there are people that kcalculat how much they would owe. they are still spending aggressive
this morning. congress is back in session, and just in time, we are now 35 days away from the fiscal cliff. >> a big day in the middle east. today both israel and gaza meet to further the cease-fire between the two embattled nations. we're going to have a live report coming up for you. >> gray thursday, black friday, and now cyber monday. but just how good are the deals today, compared to what was put out this past holiday weekend? we're going to break it all down for you. >> did you do any shopping? >> absolutely not. there's too much football. >> don't you love it? >> good morning. welcome to "early start," i'm john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. 5:00 a.m. in the east. so let's get started. they are back. our lame duck congress returning to capitol hill today. the senate in session this afternoon. the house back tomorrow. and with 35 days left, as john just reminded us, before we plunge down the fiscal cliff, two prominent republican senators, lindsey graham and saxby chambliss are signaling they are willing to give a break the no tax pledge. that is a hopeful sign, folks, because
the fiscal cliff is or what it means for their paycheck. >> they aren't worried. we'll see how numbers pan out. should be a big shopping weekend for the retailers. cyber-monday is around the corner. this is a big three days. it's funny. cyber-monday first came about when people didn't have high-speed internet. they would have to go to work and shop because it wasn't common. now it's common to have high-speed internet access at home and still you have cyber-monday. >> just as a point of note here, street signs are not allowed to say cyber-monday. i don't believe it. it's five bucks in the beer jar. you already owe 15 bucks. >> it's not "street signs." >> we play by a different set of rules here at post 9. >> we play by melissa's rules here at post 9. >> yours too, david. >> mine too. absolutely. we will be watching any number of retailers in terms of stocks. we'll see how some of the laggers do today. jcpenney. we'll be talking to the chief merchandise officer at sears later in the program. interesting to see given how poor the report was there. >> don't we have the former ceo of jcpenney o
investors no favors real acquainting them instead with the scary parts of the fiscal cliff story. the federal reserve chairman spooking investors saying that the bank would not have infinite ability to address the fallout from the failure to avoid going over the so-called fiscal cliff. the dow jones industrial today losing seven points, s&p, nasdaq up fractionally. president obama returned to the white house after a three day trip to -- through southeast asia with stops in cambodia, thailand, and burma. the president takes part in a yearly presidential tradition. the parting of the national thanksgiving turkey in the rose garden. the prime minister of israel reiterating tonight that the cease-fire deal has been reached he told reporters that israel will take whatever action is necessary to defend its people but stated a diplomatic resolution would be preferred. joining as, fox is national-security analyst, former ambassador to the united nations. let me turn to you first. is it your sense that a deal has been reached between hamas and israel? >> because israel has accomplished th
-on-year, that is pretty good. >> what fiscal cliff, right now we're up by 12% from our 12 month low. in terms of a month long average that is pretty good, investors are not as frightened as they were some days ago regarding possibility of higher taxes, for capital gains and dividend. lou: they are still in prospect, all of it is. we have folks introducing bills to defer the whole thing for a year now. and the president is making nice, he is talking with ceos, seeming leally almost every othr day. >> market thinks we have a kinder and gently barack obama, who knows that might be correct. but who knows, business sales show no signs of improving sig 1/2 cannily, we'll issue watching what happens this week into start of the holiday shopping scene very closely. lou: at what point do we just acknowledge we're sort of you know bumbling along, economically, that the markets are outperforming the economy. and if we look at this right now, there is a project here that from index of leading economic an kate or to market's behavior that says we have good things in store here 6 months down the road. >> equity can li
you. congress and the president have just 40 days to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff. when the ball drops on new year's eve, tax hikes and severe spending cuts will kick in automatically unless a deal is reached. wyatt andrews spoke with two men who say they know how it should be done, if only washington would listen. >> reporter: two years ago, the fiscal commission chaired by democrat erskine bowles and former republican senator alan simpson proposed every basic element of the fiscal cliff solution being discussed now. their plan was a mixture of higher taxes, lower spending and the reform of medicare and social security. both men told us sacrifice has to come from everyone. >> all of us have to have some skin in the game to get it done. >> if you want something, pay for it. it's a sick idea, but it is an interesting idea. >> reporter: their biggest idea was to increase revenue by combining both the president's demand for higher taxes on the rich and the republican proposal to get rid of tax loopholes. bowles/simpson would eliminate almost every tax deduction for individuals and c
in congress over the fiscal cliff. >> they're going to be pulling back a little because they don't know what to expect for 2013, and they want to remain cautious as we move forward into the next year. >> that was kristen dahlgren reporting. speaking of, congress returns from the holiday this week, still facing that so-called fiscal cliff. if a deal can't be reached by january 1st, americans would face half a trillion dollars more in taxes next year, coupled with $100 billion in cuts to domestic and defense spending. now, since the reagan era, most republicans have pledged not to raise taxes. as mike viqueira reports, there are signs of flexibility on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: it's a pledge almost all republicans have signed. to oppose tax increases of any kind. that once solid wall was showing crass. >> the pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed, and the economic situation is different. >> reporter: but republicans insist in return for defying party doctrine, democrats must agree that changes in social security and medicare. >> i
anything to avoid it. i'm referring to the so-called fiscal cliff. you may have heard about it. it's the simultaneous convergence of tax increases and spending cuts designed to pressure lawmakers accepting other negotiated deficit reduction changes. it includes expiration of the bush era tax cuts that would effect everyone. expiration of the tax cut around for years can be called a tax increase. the nonpartisan budget office would bring in $1 trillion in ten years. on tap, 1.2 trillion in spending cuts for ten years. $100 billion in first year. half to defense programs. half to nondefense. cbo says going off the cliff would lead to a recession next year. we have fox team coverage tonight. ed henry is trying to read tea leaves on a day of mixed signals from all sides but we begin with mike emanuel on the possibility that g.o.p. lawmakers may put their oath of office above a promise to antitax increase organizer. good evening. >> good evening. the republican sources say they are offering a balanced approach of significant spending cuts and some revenue without boosting tax rates. >>
. >>> dangerous times how the fiscal cliff could affect people in california, stay tuned for ktvu channel 2 morning news. this is ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> good morning, thank you for joining us this wednesday november 28th, i am pam cook. >> weather is changing and we are on storm watch right now and we have the first of several storms roaring into the bay area and expect rain and strong winds happening now. we have live team coverage and our crews are in san francisco who are at the richmond san rafael bridge. tara moriarty is watching the morning commute, where is that storm, we can feel it, right? >> now some of the heavier rain, we have to go back here but some of the heavier bands are beginning to inch into the north bay and you can see northern county as well as rushing river, we will keep an eye on that because it will be one of the focuses of the heavier rain nothing too bad yet but up into mendocino county, there will be heavy duty rainfall totals and so far there are only 3 / 100s for the south bay. coming up, mark is live at the richmond san rafael bridge, it lo
a baby was inside, we will tell you what leads police have. >>> and how the fiscal cliff could affect long-term benefits here in the golden state, it is all ahead on the ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> this is ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> good morning, thank you for waking up with us this morning november 28th, i am pam cook. >> we are on storm watch this morning, the first of several storms will roar into the bay area, you should expect strong winds and we have team coverage for you. ktvu channel 2 morning news tara moriarty is watching the traffic and it is the first for you. where is the storm system now. >> right off the coast. it is producing some light rain and it is coming in, in about two hours and the heavy rain is offshore. it is merging and it is going to pack a pretty good punch here. it looks like it is heading towards the marin coast and we will keep an eye on it and the focus will be the rushing river and for now let's to go to mark, i think this is the first time we have worked together, how are things at the san rafael bridge. >> yes, it is an honor. we have had
a single share of stock even if he was guaranteed the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff. just wait until you hear who he thinks should be the treasury secretary. >> we'll begin of course with the deal of the day. conagra foods has agreed to acquire ralcorp for $5 billion. $90 a share in cash. 28% premium to the closing price on monday. kayla tausche reported on potential for a deal between the two companies back in 2011. it creates the largest private label food company in north america. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is. it's big in size in terms of what we've seen in this market. look how excited he is. and they finally got it done. it's been one as you pointed out that was around in 2011. they couldn't get it done. that is conagra. they walked away. ralcorp stock price fell dramatically. they split the post cereal division from ralcorp. the two trade separately. so you did have a company here that perhaps became a little more -- i wouldn't say vulnerable. not as if they were committed to selling. the board composition changed. you have had activist shareholder get on there. that was very
have a fiscal curve/cliff/mole hill, however you choose to describe it, that includes, of course, the bush tax cuts, but also, the bigger piece is sequestration and the payroll tax cut again. another fight the president has had before. what do you make of his focus only on the bush tax cuts and specifically the middle income earners. >> this was a theme throughout the campaign, something he came out early on and hit hard on. it underscores this larger issue about inequality in this country which is an economic problem. you can't have a sustained recovery when 98% of the population hasn't gotten a raise in the last few years or decades depending on who they are. i think people are starting to focus on that. i think this issue of taxes is crucial of that. i think if we're going to go to the other cuts that need to happen, the entitlement reform you need to have a sense from the population that the rich are doing their part, that there is a sort of social cohesion. you can look to europe and see what happens when you don't have that. >> the president spoke in his comments effectivel
is pulled back. dagen: thank you. if congress is unable to prevent the fiscal cliff, our lawmakers could send the entire world economy into a recession. steve moore is here, senior economics writer at the "wall street journal." he joins us now from washington, d.c. will they prevent it, steve? >> the good news is, no one should ever listen to what they say. but, you know, these go sheesh and keep rolling on. my sources on capitol hill say that there is still a lot of gridlock there. the main thing, in my opinion, can they reach a deal on these taxes that does not require all of the requirements of business to go up? dagen: do think that happened, because again, there are so many taxes that we need to worry about, the lawmakers never fixed it for 2012. if they do not fix that, it will hit 33 million americans. the payroll tax cut. will that go away, because, again, it was temporary ones, temporary twice and it will still be a higher tax. >> im so glad you brought up the amt. nobody has really been focusing on this. that would be bigger than even extending the bush tax cuts. you are talkin
is that we get a fix for the fiscal cliff maybe early january, maybe we go over the cliff for a couple days. and i think the political pressure then to fix it would be intense because of the amt shock. normally 4.5 million pay pay alternative minimum taxes. if we didn't fix this on the 2012 income, what's due in 2013 will be additional taxes of several thousand dollars by an extra 28 million households. 33 million instead of 4.5 million on 2012 taxes. if you're going to file your tax return in january and you expect a refind, if you're in the 75,000 to 300,000 income bracket, forget about it if they don't fix that amt. so i think senators will get calls from a good portion of 28 billion households saying what are you doing raising my taxes. i never withheld. are you going to penalize me because you didn't fix what you fix every year? i think that amt shock is going to drive -- if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will drive a very, very fast fix. but then we'll just have a small bargain later this year. there's not going to be a grand war bargain. >> that could be the worst case scenario is j
the fiscal cliff, that once again put pressure on the markets. that's when things turned down yesterday. you'll see in europe, barely budging at this point. in france, the cac is up by about a point. the ftse is down by less than five points. in germany, the dax is up by less than three points. overnight in asia, you'll see that in japan, the nikkei was up by about .8 of a percent. the shanghai composite up by about 1%. the hang seng was up by 1.4%. oil prices also up slightly, up about 72 cents. not near the higher levels that we had seen because of the concerns in the middle east. 84.7 is where wti stands. the ten-year note is yielding 1.661%. we do have those numbers coming out. the dollar sup across the board. euro is at 1.28. gold prices this morning are indicated up just barely up by about $2.60. >>> let's go across the pond. ross westgate is standing by for us in london. ross, good morning to you. >> good morning, andrew. good to see you ahead of thanksgiving. becky called it. we're pretty flat here in europe. the dow jones being outpaced a little bit more. as you say, the focus very
in congress in the next month and a half. everybody wants to talk about the fiscal cliff, some talk about austerity, bomb, others talk about what needs to be done to lift the debt limit. and all of these issues are before us. tax increases are not. but underlying all of that, foundational to all of that, is putting america back to work. getting americans back into their jobs. if we do that we will clearly increase employment and when you increase employment you always increase tax revenue to the federal government, to state governments and local governments. so our principle task as i see it and i think i'm joined by many of my colleagues, both democratic and republican, is to get the american economy going. to put it back in gear. and there are many reasons beyond just employment and the opportunities that family have -- families have to make it. one of the critical elements in all of this is to protect americans. we recently saw superstorm san joaquin smash into -- sandy smash into new jersey and new york with devastating results. loss of life, incredible loss of property, both public a
at a situation where the country is about to go off the so-called fiscal cliff, and i wanted you to kind of look back and think did you ever believe that people -- that congress would get so entrenched in different sides that there was a possibility the country would go off the fiscal cliff? does it surprise you where we are? >> i mean, what shocks me is that we're actually $16 trillion in debt. i mean, we built up this incredible debt over a period of years. i never would have guessed that we would be in this position when we started out. >> you are all here for that? >> we're all guilty. we're all part of it. a couple of presidents contributed to. am i surprised we facing this fiscal cliff now? no, because we put it in. we created this cliff because we thought it will be so terrifying that congress would actually be shaken to reach a bipartisan agreement to reduce the debt. that's what our responsibility is and the time between now and the end of this year. >> i think congress is reflecting the nation. i think we are very divided. not in the goal, but how we get there, and i think america is t
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leader summit last week says that the looming fiscal cliff is already impacting his business. >> right now i'm not that bullish at all. in fact i'd say there's a great uncertainly that's just hanging over the entire economy because we're not confident that our guys can govern anymore. people like me just aren't hiring because we're not confident they can do it. >> well, the white house echoed that concern this morning. a new report says failing to act on the president's plan for middle class americans would freeze the economic recovery. obama's plan includes lower taxes on the first $250,000 earned by every american and tweaking the alternative minimum tax. the white house report estimates that consumer spending would fall by $200 million. now that's more than three times what consumers spent just over this entire holiday weekend. there could be a drag on a range of industries from cars and housing to restaurants and supermarkets, if congress can't reach a deal. and look, pocketbook issues are not the only problem here. carl levin, the democratic senator and chair of the armed services
." >>> president obama ramps up the sales pitch on his fiscal cliff picks. will public pressure push republicans into a deal. one leading house republican who happens to be a former pollster takes a very vocal position on what he thinks his party needs to do and to do now. >>> u.n. ambassador susan rice's attempt to smooth things over doesn't go over as well as she or the white house would have liked. guess who stepped out to vouch for her. none other than a retiring amigo, senator joe lieberman. >>> and new numbers on a hypothetical matchup for 2013 that would be sure to get some votes. what would happen if cory booker took on chris christie. that's not the only big 2013 news this morning on the campaign front. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 28, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. right to my first read of the morning. so is washington just running out the clock until about ten days before christmas when everyone smells the jet fuel and gets ready to cut a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff? some days it feels that way. the president is stepping up h
, and the message no entitlement reform in any fiscal cliff deal. and more, ollie north on record gun sales, mike reagan on california and isaacs on warren buffett. here we go. "varney & company" is about to begin. looking for a better place to put your cash? here's one you may not he thght of -- fidelity. now you don't have to go a bank get the things you want from a bank, like no-fee atms all over the world. free checkwriting and mobile deposits. now depositing a check is easy as taking a picture. free online bill payments. a highly acclaimed credit card with 2% cash back into your fidelity account. open a fidelity cash management account day and discover another reason >> wednesday, november 28th a bombshell report from forbes this morning, 11 states are in a death spiral. don't buy a house and don't invest in their municipal bonds. california, new york, illinois, of course they're on the list and smaller states like mississippi and new mexico also on that death spiral list. and the problem with the states accord to go william baldwin, he wrote the story, more takers than makers and all have
approach on the fiscal cliff, saying the elect is over. it's time to stop campaigning and start talk. some republicans are telling the president, show us your hand. martha: not over the cliff yet but perhaps headed there. good morning. i'm martha maccallum. the minority leader mitch mcconnell called the president out for what he says is a campaign-style blitz instead of negotiations between both sides. >> rather than sitting down with lawmakers and working out an agreement he's back on the campaign trail. we are not going to solve this problem by creating villians and drumming up outrage. >> he will be out trying to i'm sure zero in on those states represented by members of the house and the senate to try to get public support. bill: democrats upping the ante, looking to raise taxes, protect entitlements and raise the debt ceiling all at the same time. stuart varney, hello, there, sir. you think there has been a shift in those negotiations. >> i don't mean a shift in position. i mean a shift in focus, what they are focusing in on on the last couple days it's been taxes now it seems to be w
to tackle the tough fiscal cliff and make decisions about taxes, spending, and budget cuts. states are looking at how they can be affected. a question for you this morning, whether states should have a say in budget talks. here are the numbers to call. if you can also find us online. here is the headline in "the new york times." the pew center has a new study out called "the impact on the fiscal cliff on states." here is what it says. we would do more into these and how they will specifically affect states on an individual basis. there is a question on whether the fiscal cliff would hurt. it says -- our question for you this morning is whether the states should have a stake of in negotiations. looking more in the story "the new york times." it says -- some of the benefits states could receive, nobody is retained that president obama and republicans in congress will fail to reach an accord because they feel -- they fear that the resulting combination of spending cuts and tax increases could prompt another recession, which their states can ill afford. let's go to houston, texas and h
house speaker john boehner and harry reid this weekend for avoid efforts on fiscal cliff. on wednesday president obama will seek more input from top ceos, including gold man's lloyd blankfein and caterpillar's doug owner hill man. a number will travel to washington to try to reach a deficit cutting deal as part of the fix the debt campaign. so all things fiscal cliff still pre-dominate. we have a time clock that's quickly running out. how important is it that we get an agreement before the end of the year? >> this is like the debt ceiling argument. people got into a panic. that's something we even imposed on ourselves to decide that the debt shouldn't go too high. so it's not a bad thing. same with the fiscal cliff. what are we saying with the fiscal cliff? we're saying the economy might be revealed to be what it's actually doing because we'll take away the artificial supports because we think it's held any enough now to maybe after itself. that might entail a step drop because at the moment we're giving these tax breaks, but we're doing it out of our saving. >> but the point isn't jus
of these folks are saying if we get a compromise as far as the fiscal cliff, by the end of the year this event means higher oil and gas prices, so there is a lot of indecision down here on the floor, but a volatile market with the middle east playing out. melissa: thank you so much. just in time for black friday, to survey highlights what we can expect consumers to spend this holiday season. rich edson has the story. >> americans will spend a little bit more this year, a just-released survey of holiday shopping says. the credit union national association of consumer federation of america said retail can expect a better holiday than last year, though not much better. >> our basic result is more optimistic than last year, the strongest results in the last four years, however still does not suggest a booming holiday season, but a continued improvement from the last few years. speak of a state college spending to increase from three and a half to 4% over 2011. the numbers behind that, they will spend less than last year. analysts say plenty of shoppers say they will spend less and never do. 12% ad
, the fiscal cliff is going to be something that implies a little bit of slowing or austerity. markets do not want to see austerity. voters don't want to see austerity although it's the right thing to do in the wrong term. recognize this is the environment where -- >> all right, ron, based on the fact that the the fed's printing and you think the emerging markets are the way to go, talk about your picks. you like three sectors. technology, oil and gas, and, of course, food. the world will eat and eat better. what stocks do you like? >> well, let's see, oil and gas, exploration and transportation in the united states particularly is what we like. mlps are a place where we have a 9% allocation. a couple reasons, one, someone's got to transport all this oil from north dakota to the plants. that's growing at an incredible pace, high dividend payers, tax advantage dividend payers, going to be an incredibly important aspect for investors next year, and the world and the united states wants to be energy independent. the oil and gas, mlps, more of a commodities play. it's a good -- it's a good so
advisors joining us to talk about the fiscal cliff and whether we will go over it. liz: do not miss it. but first what drove the market with today's data download. the nasdaq the only major index. still a pretty rough day on light volume. the dow and s&p ending lower the s&p ending lower with isn't a step in the longest winning streak in more than three months. tech and utilities were the top performing sectors while telecom and energy lag behind. we were talking about natural gas prices tumbling 4% today on warmer weather. forecasters warning of a warm start, but still expected to be much colder than last year. a lot of people betting it would be $4 at this point, if not. factory activity among the manufacturers falling back into contraction this month on bigger than expected drop as the federal reserve said activity index fell three points negative 2.8. the first of five regional reports covering an area that is not affected by hurricane sandy so you can only imagine how it would be in new york. david: will be talking with scott bauer in the pit of the cme. duking it out in our stree
with the fiscal cliff. i want to go to your call for a special prosecutor. on benghazi, but, going to the fiscal cliff, the speaker making it very clear, that he's going to approach the negotiation of the white house, on the cliff, positively with some sense at least of accommodation, potential accommodation, if his terms are met. that is positive stuff, don't you think? >> well, it is positive. but, there's a lot of pressure, right now, and, of course, pressure is what you can use to take care bonn and make diamonds. this is the time to be bold. this is not the time to be defensive and i'm glad the speaker has come forward with a proposal but, the thing is, we ought to be taking the president's words and sticking them back with him. he wants everybody to pay their fair share. let's do it. let's have capital gains, 15%. let's have income tax, 15%, gift taxes, 15%, let's make sure that warren buffett finally starts paying at least as much as his secretary, in the percentage, and, what has been proposed, here, by the president, will not have warren buffett paying the same as his secretary, in perc
. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >> it's going to sell that fiscal cliff. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's between that and compromising their core principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the cliff. because the cliff is is pre
about the fiscal cliff. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> we need senators warren and webb, bennett to continue to stand up for us. >> the air war begins in the fight for the middle class. senator bernie sanders, leo gerard and barbara lee on the fiscal cliff developments. >>> jim clyburn calls out the racial undertones. >> these are code words. >> karen finney is here with reaction. >>> congressman alan west finally calls it quits. >> we're not going to contest the certified results. >> the man who beat him joins me. >>> and it's the world according to the fonz. >> there are two kinds of people. cool and nerds. >> tonight the legendary henry winkler on the traditional america and the reelection of president obama. >>> good to have you with us. democrats have the upper hand in the fight for the middle class in this country. it's time to make sure that the party stays unified on the issue of debt reduction. bloomberg news reported on nervous democrats in the house and senate who were wary about pushing hard for tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. among them are seven sen
right now. tonight as the fiscal cliff drama unfolds on capitol hill, we'll take a step back and look at how we got to this point. namely, how do we become a nation buried under more than $16 trillion debt, why crippling defense cuts, and the largest tax increase will take hold in 35 days because your elected officials don't know how to stop spending money. let me first play a small part of one of the most memorable inaugural addresses of all time. >> my fellow americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. >> sean: sadly five decades removed from that iconic speech, the democratic party, its leaders, and countless other americans, rely on government for too many things. instead of asking what they can do for their country, they're asking what their country can do for them. now the debt record is at record levels, tax rates are soaring, because nowadays handouts have taken the place of hard work. a liberal notion has permeated our society one that now says the federal government, it's their job to find you a job. it's the so-called rich that
the fiscal cliff? >> everybody agrees. >> going over the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will hurt job creation in our country. >>er -- every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> shepard: so how to avoid that. >> the president and congress will either fail together or we will succeed together. >> there has to be a deal. there has to be an agreement. >> and if they can't come up with a compromise, we are all going to pay the price. plus, they are some of the biggest names in baseball. bonds, clemens, sosa. all three tainted by accusations they used performance enhancing drugs. but should that keep them from cooper's town? tonight, the great debate over baseball's hall of fame ballot but first from fox this wednesday night, the president hopes who have the framework of a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff by christmas. president obama says he would like congress to pass a bill even sooner to extend tax cuts for the middle class families. and he invited some of those middle class americans to the white house today to help make
the fiscal cliff. is the union clash with businesses a bigger threat to jobs? from protesting wal-mart on the busiest shoppings day of the year and targeting one frt busiest u.s. airports on one of the busiest travel days of the year. we'll see big labor's travel play, a blow to a chance for anyone's recovery. hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears, and here we go the bulls and bears, gary b smith, tobin smith, jonas max ferris along with jim la camp and steve murphy, welcome to everybody. jim, growing union clashes with job creators, growing concerns about jobs? >> absolutely. look, every time you make it harder for an employer to hire somebody they're going to hire less people. we're already seeing it in the jobs numbers. look, obamacare has already cost a tremendous amount of jobs and since the president was reelected and it became apparent that obamacare was coming back in, we've seen the layoffs accelerate and now the unions are trying to kick businesses at a time when bunesses are hting and at a time when they're uncertain about labor costs and this is goi
they are republicans. then theyou have republicans. i don't see how we can survive this fiscal cliff if john boehner does not follow the lead of the president. he said a couple days ago we have to put obamacare in a position to and take some cuts from it. that's crazy. john boehner and mitch mcconnell and all of them have given the president a hard time. that's why we voted for these people and they are supposed to do our bidding, because people are hurting. host: let's take it to the state level in a carolina, state legislature, republican governor, republican. what are the big ticket items they will start working on? caller: i don't think the governor knows himself. he claimed that he will bring relief to the state. i don't see how he's going to do it. they are going to cut a lot of social programs that they call wasteful spending. people are going to really see what he's made of. what is your name again? host: what is that? caller: pope was the one along with the koch brothers that got it mccory into office. they are bought and paid for. they don't do the people -- everybody needs to be represent
. congressional leaders are hoping to hammer out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. it is clear that the lawmakers are strug struggling to find a common ground. but some are saying there is a compromise. >> the stock market rallied amidst the talk of a possible deal being made. but independent senator joe lieberman is saying there is no done deal. he says, if congress does nothing, which they have gotten pretty good at, we will go over the fiscal cliff. the republicans have conceded that the government needs to find new ways to take in more money and now the fight is centered on where to get it from. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates. but i believe we can change loopholes. >> i want entitlement reforms. democracies promise to cut spending. we never cut spending. i am looking for revenue for entitlement reform. >> reporter: senator graham says age adjustment and means testing for medicare and social security is a reasonable thing. but illinois democratic senator dick durbin doesn't want to touch social security. he thinks the new revenue should come from an increase on the tax ra
to washington this week and with just 36 days left to avert the so-called fiscal cliff becoming more apparent that senate republicans want a deal and they would like one pretty quick. but while there may be a bi-p t bipartisan consensus to raise taxes on the wealthy, the sides are still far apart on where the revenue will come from. staff level negotiations are a little bit more than stalled. not fully stalled but they didn't go so great last week and it's unclear where speaker boehner will get the votes for a deal that would raise tax rates. which is why he's pushing against that idea. two senate republicans up for re-election in 2014 have bucked norquist saying they are willing to let taxes ride. chambliss spoke to his hometown station. >> that pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now, but times have changed significantly. and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> on sunday south carolina senator lindsey graham also broke ranks saying the norquist pledge can no longer be a conservative litmus test. >> when you're $16 trillion in it debt,
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